July 1, 2007

Morality Part 2: Immoral Religion

Posted at 12:00 am by Richard and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Popularity: 17% [?]

Church by Nthel (under CC License)It seems a common claim that morality is impossible without religion. While I might agree that in some cases religion (or, more specifically, the fear of eternal damnation) can be a pretty good motivator, I think that a morality that doesn’t rely on religion is not just possible, but it’s a lot more desirable. Last time, I outlined a somewhat extreme view of what some people think of morality without religion. In this post, I’d like to explain how I feel Christian morality (and religion-based morality in general) can be flawed and potentially abused. Next time, I’ll outline some of my ideas about morality.

Immoral Religion

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. - Steven Weinberg1

As Steven Weinberg suggests, some people use religion to justify their immorality. I remember a joke I was told a few years ago (by a Lawyer, I think - who knew they had a sense of humour?), that talked about there being two types of Catholics - those who felt so restricted by their religion, that they had very dull lives, and those who live life to the full (”immorality” and all), and then simply ask forgiveness. Religion, I suppose, can be quite liberating for one’s morality if one can always rely on the forgiveness of sins.

Forbidden Fruit, by Mark Regnerus on AmazonAccording to one book (at least, the review of it that I read) evangelical Christian teenagers, although likely to think not having sex before marriage is the right thing to do, are actually more likely than many other Christians to commit this “sinful” act.

80 percent think sex should be saved for marriage. But thinking is not the same as doing. Evangelical teens are actually more likely to have lost their virginity than either mainline Protestants or Catholics.2

Sure, maybe you could argue that these teenagers “aren’t true Christians”, otherwise they wouldn’t be having sex before marriage3. But then, that wouldn’t stop people using the bible to justify slavery (as long as the slaves are from neighbouring nations)4, and killing people who work on the Sabbath56. Not to mention all the historical atrocities committed in the name of religion7.

I’m definitely not claiming that religious people are necessarily immoral, but I think I’ve shown that it’s certainly possible to “live by the rules” of religion, and act completely immorally (honestly, does anyone still think slavery is moral?). There’s people out there clearly saying that religion is not always a force for good8, and they make some pretty good points!

Why, then, do people persist in claiming that religion is the only way to live a moral life?

  1. http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26814.html []
  2. http://www.slate.com/id/2167293?nav=tap3 []
  3. Of course, you might also argue that sex before marriage isn’t immoral, in which case, I’d agree with you []
  4. Leviticus 25:44 []
  5. Exodus 35:2 []
  6. Some other great examples at Follow the Bible? []
  7. The Inquisition, The Crusades, etc. []
  8. Link via Religious Education With Warts []

June 13, 2007

Ways to Compare World Religions

Posted at 2:19 pm by Richard and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Popularity: 20% [?]

Here are some simple ways that you can compare all the major world religions:

  1. Read The Big Religion Chart,
    or
  2. Read this:

TAOISM - Shit happens
CONFUCIANISM - Confucius says: “Shit happens.”
BUDDHISM - If shit happens, it isn’t really shit.
ZEN - What is the sound of shit happening?
HINDUISM - This shit happened before.
ISLAM - If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
PROTESTANT - Let shit happen to someone else.
CATHOLIC - If shit happens, you deserve it.
JUDAISM - Why does this shit always happen to us?
JEHOVAH’S WITNESS - Let us in and we’ll tell you why shit happens
HARE KRISHNA - Shit happens. Shit happens. Shit happens.
PAGAN - Shit is part of the goddess, too.
SCIENTOLOGY - This book gets rid of your shit.
EXISTENTIALISM - Everything is shit, so let’s be depressed.
NIHILISM - Everything is shit, so let’s blow it all up.
SATANISM - I made this shit happen and I’m glad about it.
SOLIPSISM - This shit happens to me alone, but I am the cause of it
ATHEISM - I don’t believe this shit.
AGNOSTICISM - What is this shit?
NEW AGE - For $300 I can help you achieve Shit Happens Awareness

May 30, 2007

Ali-G on Religion

Posted at 2:24 am by Richard and tagged , , , , . Popularity: 7% [?]

I’m not always a fan of Sacha Baron Cohen, the man behind character like Ali-G and Borat, but he does come out with some funny ones occasionally.

Best line from the clip:

Ali-G: “Let’s talk about this man, the main man, the mack daddy of this Christian thing… what was his name again?”
Catholic Priest (clearly frustrated): “Jesus Christ!”

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