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		<title>Response to &#8220;The Veil is Dehumanizing&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just finished reading a post by the Daylight Atheist which I&#8217;m not quite sure how to respond to. I totally agree that all religions have a lot to answer for in the ways they oppress certain groups or ideas &#8211; I find the negative attitude of certain denominations of Christianity towards homosexuality disgraceful, for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just finished reading a post by the Daylight Atheist which I&#8217;m not quite sure how to respond to. I totally agree that all religions have a lot to answer for in the ways they oppress certain groups or ideas &#8211; I find the negative attitude of certain denominations of Christianity towards homosexuality disgraceful, for instance. But I find this issue slightly more complicated. The <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/06/the-veil-is-dehumanizing.html" title="The Veil is Dehumanizing @ The Daylight Athiest">Daylight Atheist</a> suggests that:</p>
<blockquote><p>Burqas, Hijabs and other such &#8220;garments oppress women and are an affront to human dignity. By design, they are dehumanizing and degrading, and remain so even if the woman freely chooses them for herself.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Burqa_Afghanistan_01.jpg" title="Afghan Burqa"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/burqa-200px.jpg" alt="Afgani Burqa" class="right" /></a>This is a really difficult one for me, because while I agree with most of what is said, I think taking it to the point where <em>any </em>veil is dehumanising &#8220;even if the woman freely chooses them for herself&#8221; might be taking things a little far.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s certainly possible to argue that in these cultures it is not <em>possible </em>for a woman to make free choices about such issues. Perhaps societal pressures are so great that even a woman who <em>thinks</em> that she&#8217;s choosing it for herself, in fact, isn&#8217;t. But if you assume that it&#8217;s possible for a woman to make a free choice about these matters, then I don&#8217;t think you can judge her, her religion, or her culture for allowing her to make the choice. If I don&#8217;t feel like parading around in a pair of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedo_(suit_style)" title="Speedo (swimsuit) @ Wikipedia - for any non Aussies who don't know this word">speedos</a>, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll allow me some modesty by wearing some board shorts and a t-shirt when I&#8217;m down at the beach. How is this any different?</p>
<p>Even today in the most liberal societies, we have certain modesty boundaries which are not to be crossed &#8211; try walking around the streets in a <a href="http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&amp;q=borat%20swimsuitN&amp;tab=wi" title="Borat Swimsuit Google Image Search">borat-style swimsuit</a> (possibly not safe for work), and see what kind of dirty looks you get. The point is, while the exact location of the &#8220;line not to be crossed&#8221; might differ in every cultures, every individual should be allowed to choose what they wear (within certain boundaries), <a href="http://www.improveverywhere.com/2006/01/22/no-pants-2k6/" title="No Pants 2k6 @ Improv Everywhere">even if it might seem a little strange</a>.</p>
<p>When a group of powerful individuals (e.g. religious leaders) make the decision for you against your will, however, we have a problem.</p>
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